Few days ago, while talking with Eva online, I realized that Niuka (my grand father) and Eva' father (Bolek,) met in 1957 or 1958 at Lyon. I was so surprised. In addition, it seems that Mina had met my grandfather too, in Lyon. But we never knew the existence of this part of the family (children and grandchildren of Henriek).
I always had the impression that Gregory's letter (around 1993) was the first bond between the different branches of the family. I would have liked so much to know why my grandfather didn't speak about his family. Why he and his brother Tomek didn't even speak with each other. To answer to your question, Gal, I don't think that the list of names is drawn up chronologically. Niuka was born in 1899, Henriek in 1900. I don't know Ala's year of birth. In your History Thesis, you spoke about Murray as "the son of my grandmother's eldest brother, Pinkas". Did Murray have brother or sister?
So, I don't have unfortunately other information.
I'm happy to know a new cousin from America : Gwen
Anne
Monday, May 14, 2007
Sunday, May 13, 2007
Discovering my Family
Hello! I am Gwen (born Rozines), living outside of Albany, New York - in the U.S. My father was Nathan Rozines, the fourth of five children born to Henryk and Rachel. I have an older sister, Sharon.
I am originally from Rochester, New York, where I lived nearby to my grandmother (Rachel), and my Uncle David, Aunt Sylvia, and cousin Greg. Even though we lived near to each other, I learned very little about my father's past in Europe until after his death in 1991. As a result, I feel disjointed about the Rozines family, and I'm thrilled to be able to use this blog as a tool to become acquainted with all of you!
I have been married to my husband, Paul, since 1993. We have 2 sons: Noah and Brady. I'm trying to make sure that our boys know more about our family history than I did!
I am originally from Rochester, New York, where I lived nearby to my grandmother (Rachel), and my Uncle David, Aunt Sylvia, and cousin Greg. Even though we lived near to each other, I learned very little about my father's past in Europe until after his death in 1991. As a result, I feel disjointed about the Rozines family, and I'm thrilled to be able to use this blog as a tool to become acquainted with all of you!
I have been married to my husband, Paul, since 1993. We have 2 sons: Noah and Brady. I'm trying to make sure that our boys know more about our family history than I did!
Saturday, May 5, 2007
Questions...
How wonderful to read what all of you have written. I have questions for Anne (or anyone else):
The list of names of Ala and Niuka (Nachem?) and Henry's brothers and sisters - is that in the order in which they were born? I've always wondered where my grandma Ala fell in the order.
Is Rivka the Hebrew/Polish name for Rachel or Rebecca? I think it's Rebecca - that's the name I remember hearing from Ala when I asked about her mother.
I remember having lunch with Niuka in Paris when I was there at the age of... 20? Or was it when I was 15? (Anne, when did he pass?) He looked very elegant in his winter coat. He had a lot of questions about my grandmother, mostly about whether she had enough money when she passed. My grandmother worried about money a lot too, about whether there was enough. I suppose after all our family had been through during the war, that's not surprising. Have others in the family had this experience with the older generation(s)? I don't worry about money so much as about whether there will be enough... food, work, etc. Maybe it's just in my genes. :)
Love to all,
Gal
The list of names of Ala and Niuka (Nachem?) and Henry's brothers and sisters - is that in the order in which they were born? I've always wondered where my grandma Ala fell in the order.
Is Rivka the Hebrew/Polish name for Rachel or Rebecca? I think it's Rebecca - that's the name I remember hearing from Ala when I asked about her mother.
I remember having lunch with Niuka in Paris when I was there at the age of... 20? Or was it when I was 15? (Anne, when did he pass?) He looked very elegant in his winter coat. He had a lot of questions about my grandmother, mostly about whether she had enough money when she passed. My grandmother worried about money a lot too, about whether there was enough. I suppose after all our family had been through during the war, that's not surprising. Have others in the family had this experience with the older generation(s)? I don't worry about money so much as about whether there will be enough... food, work, etc. Maybe it's just in my genes. :)
Love to all,
Gal
New members, new country
Hello, here a message from France, writing with 4 hands by Anne and Johan. We must to get into the habit to speak English. I let Eva and Gal to correct me. We are very few of us in France. My father Maurice (his wife Henriette), my brother Pierre, his son Arnaud (24 years), and my three children Johan (8 years), Sarah (3,5 years), Elina (15 months).
Our grand father was Niuka, born in 1899 at Lodz, brother of Ala, (the Gal’s grand- mother), and Henry’s brother who give us a lot of cousin !.
We have at least the same two great grandparents Abraham Rozynes, born at Lodz in 1865 and Rywka Rozynes, born Dudeltchik. I think they are married in 1889.
We have two characteristics:
orthography of our name seem to remain intact (Rozynes)
my children are first Rozynes "Jews Vietnamese" (Johan says : it’s very important for him and her daughters)
For those who that interests, here the list of the 10 children of Abraham and Rachel, such as me transmitted the my grandfather:
Pinkas
Rosa
Henriek
Bela
Ala
Massia
Ida
Niuka
Sara
Tomek
Johan is very exciting to know all is family around the world
Love to you all
Anne and Johan
Friday, May 4, 2007
All my family...........
hi its mina from Israel..........thank you gal ......
I am the oldest cousen living in Israel... My mother is dora Rozynes that is living with my father Moseh Orman in Israel I have a sister chaya also in Israel she is yanger then me.... bouth of us got mareid and have childern I have 3 boys and she have one girl and one boy....my grandmother was Rechell and my grandfather was Hanry Rozynes.
as you know I am the only one who met evrybady ...I know all the family from Amrica and from France even my grandfathers brothers from Lion ...on 1972 I was visiting there and was luky to know Newka his sun Mories that still live there and I sow him last sumer in Paris when he was visiting his dother Ann....my mother dora is first cousen with Mories and they are first cousen with Orit Gals mothter that never come to see my mother in Israel (very sad) .
all my cousens from Amrica love you all ...sorry if my English is bed next time Gal will visit me and she will write every thing about evryone.....all my cousens Eva Yola Janifer July Ami Greg Qween and Therry sending you my love
and you linda from Maimi thank you and miss you.....love mina.
I am the oldest cousen living in Israel... My mother is dora Rozynes that is living with my father Moseh Orman in Israel I have a sister chaya also in Israel she is yanger then me.... bouth of us got mareid and have childern I have 3 boys and she have one girl and one boy....my grandmother was Rechell and my grandfather was Hanry Rozynes.
as you know I am the only one who met evrybady ...I know all the family from Amrica and from France even my grandfathers brothers from Lion ...on 1972 I was visiting there and was luky to know Newka his sun Mories that still live there and I sow him last sumer in Paris when he was visiting his dother Ann....my mother dora is first cousen with Mories and they are first cousen with Orit Gals mothter that never come to see my mother in Israel (very sad) .
all my cousens from Amrica love you all ...sorry if my English is bed next time Gal will visit me and she will write every thing about evryone.....all my cousens Eva Yola Janifer July Ami Greg Qween and Therry sending you my love
and you linda from Maimi thank you and miss you.....love mina.
Thursday, May 3, 2007
Hello family!
Hello everyone, I am Eileen, the daughter of Eva. I live in San Diego, California right now and I am headed out to Israel in August for the wedding. I have not been there for 24 years...I am 25 years old now. :) I look forward to meeting everyone and learning about my family that I don't know!
And I am learning Hebrew right now as well =)
And I am learning Hebrew right now as well =)
Eva's Corner
Hi all: I guess it must be my age, getting sentimental, by now I know most of my family some of you I met personally through the years and some I still have yet to meet, but very few of you.
The last generation of the 1st cousins is dwindling down, the ones that were around were mostly the Henrik Rozines family and here there is one direct descendant left in Israel Dora, mother of Mina and Haia, she's first cousin with Maurice and Henriette (Orit) unfortunately she never met either one of them, a little sad, but what can I say, things happened and that 's how it turned out.
As Gal, I also, went for a family finding when I came to USA and met almost all of you guys and girls, mostly girls, it seems that this generation of cousin's is mostly girls except Gregory who is my first cousin and Philip who is cousin once removed, something like that. The rest of you are girls, correct me if i am wrong in here somewhere. the next generation has more boys, but not me, I have two girls as well.
Anyway, as you all know me, I am Eva daughter of Boris or Baruch Rozynes who changed his name after the war to "Rozynek" and he was the son of Henrik Rozynes who married to Rachel and I still cannot pronounce her family name, someone will come to my rescue for that one.
I have a sister Yola who also lives here in Maryland, and I have two daughters Eileen 25 years old and Jennifer 24 years old this May 15, 2007.
let's hope this generation will revive the connection that was lost in the last.
The last generation of the 1st cousins is dwindling down, the ones that were around were mostly the Henrik Rozines family and here there is one direct descendant left in Israel Dora, mother of Mina and Haia, she's first cousin with Maurice and Henriette (Orit) unfortunately she never met either one of them, a little sad, but what can I say, things happened and that 's how it turned out.
As Gal, I also, went for a family finding when I came to USA and met almost all of you guys and girls, mostly girls, it seems that this generation of cousin's is mostly girls except Gregory who is my first cousin and Philip who is cousin once removed, something like that. The rest of you are girls, correct me if i am wrong in here somewhere. the next generation has more boys, but not me, I have two girls as well.
Anyway, as you all know me, I am Eva daughter of Boris or Baruch Rozynes who changed his name after the war to "Rozynek" and he was the son of Henrik Rozynes who married to Rachel and I still cannot pronounce her family name, someone will come to my rescue for that one.
I have a sister Yola who also lives here in Maryland, and I have two daughters Eileen 25 years old and Jennifer 24 years old this May 15, 2007.
let's hope this generation will revive the connection that was lost in the last.
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